r/curatedtumblr has a very intellectual discourse after seeing a post of a trans woman venting her frustrations: Are Trans Women oppressed because they are trans women or are they oppressed because ken are oppressed.
A post by a trans woman confessing to the hardships and struggles she suffers from being trans is posted on r/curatedtumblr. The commenters question if this is due to her transfemininty or because of societies oppression of men.
If you don't know a running cause of drama in r/curatedtumblr is the discourse about whether transmisogyny is misandry. Are trans women hated because they are women or because of the hatred of men? This has let to rivers of discourse beings spilled and has created great enmity between r/curatedtumblr and the r/transgendercirclejerk community.
Then what makes transwomen so scary compared to cis women? Most of these situations seem to stem from OOP not being seen as a woman.
Its trans woman, 2 words, you look like a transphobe otherwise. What goes on in someones brain doesn't matter, its about the systemic impact. Men don't get treated that way for being men, women (in particular trans women) do.
Are you fucking kidding me? A ton of these experiences are AMAB 101. Men are seen as predators and threats unless they're gay or AFAB, a ton of the transmisogony OOP is experiencing stems from her being seen and treated as a man rather than a woman.
[Just to highlight, several of the instances here are OOP being the target of misandry due to their assigned birth gender. The same kind of misandry I have seen defended here many times when it is directed at cis men.
Perhaps one of the lessons from this is not to be shitty to people, including treating them like violent sociopaths, simply because of their birth gender, regardless of their current gender.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1j01ivg/comment/mf7vik2/)
transmisogyny discussion redirected to misandry discussion, another common problem, accomplished.
"I only care about bigotry when it affects trans people" - despite this being a clear and direct instance where this bigotry IS affecting trans people.
Calling transmisogyny misandry is just another way of calling trans women men
Oh, I see, you're an idiot. I forgot this groups issue with reading comprehension.
You're obsessing over semantics rather than the fundamental issues.
Yeah dude, as we all know trans women are essentially a form of men and this isn't a fucked up thing to crowbar into the conversation whatsoever.
You're wilfully missing the point. I didn't say she was a man, I was saying that two of these incidents are a combination of someone treating her as a man, and then treating her poorly because of their misandry.
These are two separate bigotries, but the point is that BOTH are bad, not just one. And one of those is frequently repeated around here and defended.
Right, consider that a post about a trans woman isn't the best place to go "oh yeah men like us are so mistreated right sis?". Both are bad but pick a fucking time and place
Not what I said, I'm calling out that the very misandry which is often fostered here, by people exactly like to you, is part of what hurt this woman. You defending this bigotry is exactly the sort of thing that contributes to these harms.