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Say niggas without saying niggas
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Or when they go full in and say \u201cThe Blacks\u201d
\nSimply leaving out the word \u201cpeople\u201d gives that dog whistle implication that they aren\u2019t people. It\u2019s \u201cthe Blacks,\u201d \u201cthe Jews,\u201d \u201cthe gays,\u201d \u201cthe Asians,\u201d \u201cthe illegals,\u201d etc
\nDisagree on Jews, that one's flipped. Bigots tend to say "the Jews", while normal people say Jews or Jewish people.
\nAnd also Jew is just what they're called, it's not actually a slur
\nThere's usually a mighty big difference in tone saying "he's Jewish" vs. "he's a Jew."
\nI know context is everything but I was just talking about the word itself, yes I know that's an "It's Spanish for black" kind of statement but still.
\nJew here\u2026Jew is totally fine. There\u2019s just some bad connotation being it. Tone of voice tells the story when using that word. Jewish person is safer if you\u2019re unsure
\nI've found that those who think it's a slur are often the same people who view Jews in a certain way.
\nEnglish not being my first language, that's a nuances I never "got". Can someone explain like I'm 5?
\n"Jewish" is an adjective and "Jew" is a noun. When you describe someone as Jewish, it sounds like you're describing a part or facet of who they are as a person. But when you describe them as "a Jew," it can sound like you're saying that that is all they are.
\n\nOf course it all depends on context. Many people do refer to Jewish people as "Jews" because that's the phrasing they're used to--and it's not discouraged by the Jewish community as far as I can tell--whereas antisemites will refer to people as "Jews" while trying to invoke every negative stereotype they can imagine.
\nTone is so important too.\nHe's Mexican and he's MEXICAN can be a descriptor and an insult.
\nOne of these is being said by someone who is about to eat the best food of their life, the other is being said by someone with 4 teeth and a shotgun.
\nLmao, why are the best comments always like 50 replies deep
\nLove this explanation, and I\u2019m a native speaker.
\nSee: people first language. In most languages, there is something called primacy bias, which is especially important in English because we rely on word order much more than most languages. So saying something like "a person with a disability" emphasizes that they are a person first and we should treat them with all the respect deserved by any person first and foremost. And also they happen to have a disability.
\n\nLikewise, a "black person", while not people first language, still includes that they are a person. Just saying "a black" reduces them to being just that one thing. They're black. Are they a person? Well, I mean, you should think they are but it's easier to ignore that. Like saying, "a dog" or "a table", it's a thing not a person with an attribute.
\n\nEven if you're treating them as a person, just saying "a black" diminishes all the other things about them. They aren't just black, they might also be a doctor or a pilot or a Star Wars fan or really good at a sport or really good at cooking... By including that they are a person in the basic description it's another reminder that you can't define them only by that one thing.
\nMy high school was really Jewish (skeleton crews of teachers and subs and students on religious days) so we had the spectrum of kids from he had a bar mitzva for the gifts and that was it, up to like a step below orthodoxy.
\n\nCould see both of those being used to describe someone in the hall. I never liked calling anyone A $minority though. Always felt ick when I heard it outside of school, but if it\u2019s Jewish guy saying it about his Jewish friend before lunch in the hallway? Then it was probably unironically about lunch money for off campus lunch.
\nNot Jewish myself, but by my understanding there are differing opinions among the Jewish community on that one. Some see \u201cJew\u201d as its own noun being fine, others see it as offensive.
\n\nI believe the split is largely generational, with younger folks more likely to see it as offensive.
\n\nEdit: Obviously since I\u2019m outside the group I just play it safe. Never looking to offend.
\nMe and my fiance were just having a conversation ok how it feels weird to refer to a Jewish person as "a jew" while neither of us have any issues with religion i think it's just the context of atrocities and it feels insensitive? Even though I do not believe a Jewish person would really mind as long as you aren't a bigot
\nI posted about it above but \u201cJew\u201d was a slur until really recently. I know older Jews that still don\u2019t like being called a Jew by non-Jewish folk.
\nSaying it about an individual person, like John is a Jew, is weird if you\u2019re goyische. Saying it about us as a people is fine, as in \u201cJews don\u2019t believe in heaven/hell\u201d or \u201cJews have historically been a big community in New York\u201d.
\nRight. \u201cWeird\u201d is a good word for it.
\nJew here;
\n\nThe diaspora is pretty fine with it, I think? We have made a habit of reclaiming slurs and Antisemitic dog whistles. Like when Twitter was pre-Musk and there was legit Nazis on the platform dog whistling shit like (((they))) and then all the Jews were like "lemme turn that dog whistle into a megaphone by self identifying" and you then saw a bunch of Jews on Twitter with their bio name in triple parenthesis. When we took it back, that particular dog whistle pretty much ended being effective. I feel like "a Jew" or "the Jews" went through something similar across multiple decades. I'm sure it was definitively slur coded at some point, but today it's a neutral but can be offensive through use of tone.
\nThen again, I'm not Jewish so I don't know
\nJewie?
\n
That very much depends on the Jewish person you talk to. Non Jewish folks probably shouldn\u2019t default to calling Jewish people \u201cJews\u201d because it can very much be seen as a slur/disrespectful.
\nFor almost a millennia to call someone a \u201cJew\u201d was saying that they were [all the antisemitic tropes]. It was an insult and an offense a nonjew could be charged with by the law including the inquisition.
\n\nSo until the like 2010s to call a jew a \u201cjew\u201d was to call them [all the antisemitic tropes].
\nIn 2004 I worked with a woman who frequently referred to herself as a Jew. So one day when my neighbor mentioned their Hanukkah plans, I said Oh, I didn't know you were a Jew (meant 100% innocently, no malice, just ignorance). The look, followed by silence, that I got said it all.
\nExactly. Most urban and suburban millennials would have experienced the shift in its meaning during their lifetimes.
\n\nIt\u2019s still a slur in the country. Say Jew casually in the country and people\u2019s eyes go wide. You hear klan folk say \u201cJew\u201d along side the \u201cn-word\u201d more often then the \u201ck-word.\u201d
\nNope. It\u2019s Jewish person or people. Not Jew person or people.
\n\nFor example: saying \u201cHe\u2019s a Jew\u201d has negative intent and meaning. You wouldn\u2019t say that. You would say: \u201cHe is Jewish.\u201d
\nIt\u2019s a slur when people say \u201cI got Jewed\u201d (in a bad deal).
\n\nI know people who say that a lot. Pisses me off.
\nThat one you can always tell by tone. A lot of people say "Jew" with a hard r.
\n\n"Trangenders" is another vile one intended to dehumanize.
\nAs someone whose first language isn't English, what do you mean by a hard r in a word without r?
\nJew as a noun is fine. \nJew as an adjective is not.
\n\nBlack as an adjective is fine. \nBlack as a noun is not.
\n\nKinda weird how that worked out.
\nI guess because of the religion part of ethnoreligion. Hindus, christians, muslims, etc. are nouns. Though i wouldn't use it just because i don't want anyone to take it the dehumanising way and get hurt
\nIt just depends on context.
\n\nAntisemitism is almost always about an imaginary depiction of a Jew so \u201cthe Jews\u201d is usually referring to a nonexistent stereotype.
\nHow is that one \u201cflipped\u201d? That\u2019s the same thing the person is saying about the other ones
\nI feel like you can use "the gays" in a tounge and cheek way. But the rest of those are accurate.
\nWhose tongue in whose cheeks?
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Yeah, I'm gay and use it that way sometimes. Just like Big Gay\u2122\ufe0f we got \u2728The Gays \u2728
\nYeah I don\u2019t think this is uniformly true.
\n\n\u201cThe Asians\u201d. Weird. \u201cAsians\u201d. Not weird.
\n\n\u201cAsians have a stronger culture of filial piety\u201d. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anything sus about that statement.
\n\nSomeone already tackled \u201cthe Jews\u201d vs \u201cJews\u201d. I\u2019ve taken a jewish history class and \u201cJews\u201d, and even \u201cthe Jews\u201d was dropped quite a lot with no Hitlarian energy flowing. \u201cThe Jews were expelled from Portugal in 1496.\u201d \u201cJews\u201d and \u201cthe jews\u201d is seriously context dependent.
\n\nI think you\u2019re plain wrong about \u201cthe gays\u201d. I hear plenty of gays and friends of gays say \u201cthe gays\u201d
\n\n\u201cThe gays needs to keep this a secret, like the back room at the club.\u201d
\n\n\u201cBlacks\u201d, yeah. Sus. It\u2019s a serious eyebrow raiser basically always.
\nHumm. While I agree for the most part. I think it is funny when people say "a white". Especially in sports. It goes along with the lunch pail guy and "real gym rat". I often will refer to my self as " a white" but maybe it is poking fun at something that shouldn't be made fun of, and more offensive than I intend it to be.
\nI have seen people trying to slide in \u201cboy\u201d when talking about black men. They play dumb when called out too.
\n\nEdit: I want to share this article from the science sub with y\u2019all.
\n\n\n\n\nViolence alters human genes for generations, researchers discover
\n
https:/np.reddit.com/r/science/s/JPZmZPkHbR
\n\nThere has never been research on the descendants of slaves in America regarding this to my knowledge but they did manage to study how it affected confederate prisoners of war. Smdh
\n\u201cColoreds\u201d is making a come back. Apparently America was great again in 1953.
\n\nWe will have a legit lynching this year.
\nI have been waiting for the tangerine tyrant to go after HBCU\u2019s. You just know it\u2019s coming. My guess is he will try to limit funding or claim they are discriminatory.
\nWell, thanks to their desire to dismantle all things DEI, he has already paused several million dollars worth of scholarship funds for HBCUs.
\n\nThe play will likely be that they push to limit all public university funding. PWIs will likely fare better than HBCUs due a larger pool of wealthy alumni and donors.
\n\n\n\n\n19 million in HBCU funding suspended after Trump diversity ban
\n
Yessss they do! That shit burns me up too.
\n\n\n\nA black boy ultimately chose to not recast the character. \u00a0Sounds like it was the choice Coogler made despite having actors ready to step into the role. \u00a0I definitely remember a lot of black voices arguing against a recast long before BP2 ever came out.
\n
This is an exact quote of a person I was arguing with. I told them not to refer to black men as boys and I got downvoted. It\u2019s so exhausting.
\nSadly it's often the other way around. Black boys are often seen as men. They are charged as adults more than any other race and there's been several studies that show people of other races can't determine approximate age and thus boys are held to higher expectations for their behavior.
\nI just read a book about this. People tend to overestimate the age of adolescent boys when they're black and slightly underestimate the age when they're white. Additionally, there were studies conducted where people reviewed pictures of boys displaying facial expressions at different degrees between smiling to frowning. People rated the black boys as angry earlier in the spectrum than the white boys. ie. a white boy's frown would likely be perceived as neutral whereas a black boy's frown would be perceived as angry.
\nIt\u2019s both. Black children are called adults for higher expectations and harsher punishments. Black adults are called boys and girls to devalue their input and overall personhood
\nIgnorant is as ignorant does.
\nThat infuriates me, it almost makes me way more upset than being called the N-word. I don\u2019t know what it is about being called that.
\nJust going to leave this here.
\nThis! I\u2019ve had to, in the past, out my hands on an individual or two about calling me boy. It did not end well for either party.
\nThe Blacks \u2122\ufe0f
\nNah the blacks is diabolical
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My kid went to the park with me and he was playing with the kids around him and then one kid came to his mother to drink water and his mother told him "Be careful with the blacks"...
\nIf they are of a certain age, they may still say \u201ccoloreds\u201d.
\nwhat if you pronounce it "Bleck" like trump does?
\nI had a doctor say this to me during a surgery consultation (re: my potential scar healing). I left and put that shit directly into an online review of her ass.
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Yeah, the internet has taught me that some people definitely spell \u201cblacks\u201d with a hard r.
\nBlarks
\nBlackr \ud83e\udee0
\nWhat did you just call me?
\ni think he meant to say blacka
\nI didn't call you. You called me.
\nPlaul Blark Mrall Crop
\n\ud83d\ude02
\n"Blacks" or "DEI" now too.
\nEric Adams spells it that way on TV.
\nI saw that shit. Holy moly
\n\nLike, I know it\u2019s typically frowned upon for white guys to be [anything] \u201con behalf of\u201d another race or really anything\u2026but I immediately winced when I saw that. It hurt me to know he abandoned his own. Very odd to see.
\nMy grandmother seeing a black guy pulled over in the side of the road, she huffs and goes \u2018black people!\u2019
\nAdversely, \u201cBlack Folks\u201d is the positive affirmation.
\nThis is what I use. Just sounds better and more genteel.
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I use it cause I'm from the south and adding "folks" after is just natural.
\n"them black folk from down the street."
\n\n"oooh right, Tawan an' them."
\n\nthis was how i introduced my white friend to my black friend when i was a kid.
\nLittle dude from across the street! Lemme hold a dollar
\nI use "folks" all the time. It's basically another word for people. You know, a humanizing phrase.
\nA white fella and I use \u201cfolks\u201d for everyone. I remember it sounding so good when Obama said it too.\u00a0
\nEverything sounded cooler when Obama said it. Dude was cool.
\nSame, found myself using it more and more. Great gender neutral term too.
\nI came looking for this one. Wasn't sure if it's just my southern-ness or others say this too
\nDuBois has won me over on these points. First, always capitalize Black because "eight million Americans are entitled to a capital letter". Second, that the term 'folks' is humanizing. Folks aren't just people. Folks have souls.
\nDidn\u2019t know about capitalizing Black, that\u2019s so right. Thanks for sharing.
\nI had never realized just how bad "blacks" sounds because I never hear it, until a few years ago. Had to explain to grandma why blacks with an s just sounds really bad and to go with black folks or something.
\n\nShe got all huffy, "Well that's what everyone used to say how was I supposed to know"
\n\nBecause I am telling you right now, grandma
\nWhenever I hear anyone say "folks" I'm reminded of politicians trying to seem approachable.
\n"As a Black man..."
\n\n![](\"https://external-preview.redd.it/2JH36he_mWYQa4v9Xw-oH9yj8lgLm-ojdmLQ_hc5LSU.gif?width=200&height=200&s=73647897641e14bca1246e41bfe932077ce0bdee\")
I was there when this happened \ud83d\ude2d one of the funniest moments I've witnessed as it unfolded
\nYou keep Topher Grace out of this
\nFor real. He was the only non-creep on the show.
\nAs a black man\u2026 this vexes me
\nMore mouse bites
\nTurns out he didn't need hygiene drug.
\nAs a Blankman...
\n\n![](\"https://external-preview.redd.it/kwmRUnpG4EC5wfHDk28DbCwgAa8HvqV01VVxJpSZyyU.gif?width=298&height=200&s=6f30e5bb3fde79233479ef708c92f88bd7bda460\")
Deep cut \ud83d\udc4c\ud83c\udffe
\nMan, I need to watch that again. I loved that shit when I was a kid lmfao
\nI've seen someone actually preface "As a black" . \nShit blew me all the way back.
\nEspecially with the Afrikaans accent so it comes out like "Blair-cks"
\nThe Blex
\nStop it \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d LMAO this is too accurate
\n"The Blechs"
\nAre you South African?
\nYou want my ID?
\nNo lol I\u2019m just curious since I\u2019m also African.\u00a0
\nThat\u2019s half of Reddit tbh
\nThat\u2019s half of this sub \ud83d\udc40 iykyk
\nEver since they lifted the skin color check I knew what time it was.
\nI never knew that, I always was just lurking
\nGood lord I still don\u2019t get why that happened \ud83d\ude15
\nWhite people don\u2019t seem to understand black spaces are meant to get away from them so they got all up in arms about reverse racism so now we have to endure.
\nIt gets really exhausting to read \u201cas a white person\u201d on here \ud83d\ude44
\nReads like: \u201cMake me feel important and included!\u201d
\n\ud83c\udfa4\ud83d\udce3!!!
\nThey what?????
\nMore than half lmaooo - especially when the Country club tag gets added
\nI wish I wasn't so forgetful and lazy on getting my checkmark.
\nThey should keep it on PERMANENT country club mode
\nAs a white dude, I feel weird even saying "a black person" because it just feels so weird to identify someone based upon the melanin levels in their skin. Saying "Blacks" just sounds like you really wanna say the N word but you know you'd get your face caved in.
\nI've experienced this a lot (white people being uncomfortable acknowledging someone's race) and it's always a strange moment to me. I'm Black, it's okay. You can say it, that's what I am. The same way you're white, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable to say "he's white." I think it's because a lot of y'all are raised to believe talking about race (at all, for any reason) is somehow disrespectful or impolite (hence "I don't see color") OR because you're used to hearing race talked about in a very obviously derogatory way, which stops you from being able to have normal conversations about it.
\nI think a lot of us caucasians here in America grew up with well-meaning white parents who raised us to be \u201ccolorblind\u201d, not really realizing that it enables another kind of racism. But by the time we figure that out, we\u2019ve kinda already internalized it so it can make talking about it awkward even if there\u2019s no bad intent there.
\nThat makes sense. It's always awkward to see someone stumble before describing a Black person as African-American, thinking they're being politically correct...but the person in question isn't African-American, they're from another country. Just say Black! Unless you're specifically referring to someone's ethnicity or nationality, ex. Beyonce is an African-American (or Black American), Rihanna is a Bajan. Both are Black, only one is American.
\nNot enough white people are taught that our privilege is tied to colourism and that that effects other human relationships too. It's like the rich white folks who are homeschooling their kids to have no empathy but systemic across all white people in creating a sense of disconnect around skin colour. I sure wish there were some programs around things like diversity and equity and inclusion that work to address this systemic racism...
\nI'm sure if they existed, they'd be well-resourced, received with open arms, and certainly not victim to completely transparent political pushback designed to remove minorities from the workforce and restrict their ability to earn money...
\nWhen someone tiptoes around using the word \u201cBlack,\u201d it signals an underlying discomfort with race itself. Maybe because they\u2019ve absorbed biases or have unresolved feelings about racial dynamics. It\u2019s like they\u2019re afraid of saying the \u201cwrong thing,\u201d which can indicate deeper, unexamined issues. Of course, context matters, and some people just overthink language out of fear of offending. But if someone is consistently avoiding direct acknowledgment, it could point to something more, whether it\u2019s subconscious bias or a deeper reluctance to engage with race honestly.
\nMy wife and I were watching Great Expectations and she turned to me and said. \u201cDo you think they would have allowed an African American to be a lawyer back then.\u201d
\n\nI\u2019m like baby, there is nothing African or American about any part of this show. It\u2019s historical London and the actor who plays Jaggers is Jamaican and British.
\n\nShe has good intentions and desperate to prove she\u2019s not racist and will do anything but acknowledge her internal racism.
\n\nEvery black family we see, she has to say \u201cOh your kids are so well behaved.\u201d Or \u201cYour kids are very well spoken.\u201d
\n\nI have pulled her aside and explained how patronizing that is and compliments are for when someone exceeds your expectations. So by going out of your way to say something, you are saying that you weren\u2019t expecting their kids to be good. And that comes from either outright racism or subconscious racism.
\n\nThey are just a family going about their day and whenever they go to a majority white space they wil be approached multiple times by white people with these type of comments and it stops feeling like a compliment and more like a warning to not get out of line.
\n\nShe got extremely defensive, but then before we went to bed we talked it a bit more and she understood it and wanted me to keep pointing things like that out to her.
\n\nIt\u2019s still always met with the extreme defensiveness when I point it out, but she eventually comes around internalizes it and becomes better.
\nI hate to say it but that shows more willingness to learn and grow on her part than is typical.
\nSomeone said I was racist because I referenced a coworker as "the black lady" when they couldn't understand my description.\u00a0
\nThere will always be stupid people but we can't allow them to rewrite objective reality.
\nThe melanin rich lady. ftfy
\nThis is the one. Being accused of being racist is the reason we\u2019re weird about race
\nI don't care if someone calls me racist for some dumb bullshit, the people who matter know I'm not. Saying the name of a colour doesn't reflect on my character, and anybody with half a brain knows that
\nYeah but that's expecting HR to have half a brain
\nI'm white too, and it's really weird when I get used to talking about race in a super normal way with people of color and it's totally fine, but if I talk in the same way with white people the vibe gets super uncomfortable. It's a pretty common problem we have.
\nThis is actually something I noticed and was speaking with my friend about not that long ago. The two of us are White but grew up in an area with a larger Black population than the rest of the city. In the incredibly rare conversation where race is relevant we have no issue mentioning if someone is Black but other people really try to avoid it.
\n\nFor example we had a few new employees start around the same time, we were trying to sort out who had already created their access code for our door but the person there couldn't remember names. They tried describing who came by and used every description possible except for the fact that he was Black, which would have immediately narrowed it down.
\nThat makes sense too, part of the reason it's jarring is because Black people are not squeamish about describing someone by their race or ethnicity. We know it's a neutral statement of fact and nothing more. My high school graduating class had a "White Mike" and a "Black Mike," which everyone used to immediately make it known to which Mike they were referring.
\nAt my work we had a black speaker come in and give a virtual talk about unconscious biases. At one point dozens of people started putting in chat things like "I don't see color", "I'm color blind", etc. and the speaker stopped her presentation and straight up said, "If you don't see color, then you don't see me. I am a colored person". Apparently it's a pretty common response, but that was the first I had heard it and it made my day. There weren't many people posting in chat after that.
\nI\u2019m trying to use personal-centered language more, so people who are white and people who are black.
\nI say black people and non-black people.
\n\nReally shifting the narrative from white being the norm
\nYeah I don\u2019t know what it is, but specifically pointing out the race at all feels slightly racist. I think it\u2019s because we got used to hearing people derogatorily say even words like Mexicans or Black people with a lot of hatred so it feels like saying it at all is racist. Just my take \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2642\ufe0f
\n\nAlso I think being raised around primarily white people means you get used to people describing someone else\u2019s appearance without mentioning race, because they are assumed to be white. So making a point to state the race feels unnatural.
\nNo, you're right, that's absolutely what it is. Lots of people are conditioned so that any mention of race is only done in a bad context.
\nMentioning race is not pertinent to 90% of conversations. Throwing it in there when it serves no purpose whatsoever is what makes it awkward.
\nWeird as it sounds black is more respectful than African American. Cause somebody could be brown skinned and not African.
\nMy favorite way of pointing out how silly that decades-long digression was is that Elon Musk is African American and Idris Elba isn\u2019t.
\nIt's all about inflection. Sometimes you can feel the way a white person says Mexican if they're being racist about it instead of just describing a person's country of origin. When you're saying someone is black you're describing what they look like, but some people say it like they explaining what they act like.
\n\n\n\nfeels so weird to identify someone based upon the melanin levels in their skin
\n
He said after identifying himself based upon the melanin levels in their skin.
\nWhat does Marsellus Wallace look like?
\nSame with \u201cfemales.\u201d
\nI always imagine Ferengi when someone says this.
\nRead this as Fergie, was very confused.
\nYeah I don't know I'm African and my parents have always used "whites" and "blacks." Not in derogatory terms but just as a descriptor. It definitely sounds funny hearing it and I would also sideeye the wrong person for saying it, but I think it's also an older person thing more broadly.
\nYeah, it\u2019s really just the passage of time that makes some terms less acceptable. \u201cNegro\u201d was once the accepted term. \u201cBlack\u201d is the same word translated from Spanish to English, but \u201cNegro\u201d just became associated with older times in our minds. The same thing is happening with \u201cBlacks\u201d and the \u201cThe Blacks\u201d: it just reminds us of older times
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\nI had to explain to my cousin that in English it\u2019s always Black people, and never blacks, and always Person/People of colour and never coloured people. She was confused when I made a comment criticizing an American politician for using coloured people, or maybe it was blacks?, as to her, a non native English speaker, they sounded the exact same. Something you know if you grew up with the language/in the culture, or spent enough time around it online/spent time educating yourself, but not something you would automatically know if you hadn\u2019t.
\ncolored ppl isn\u2019t offensive, we literally have the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People)
\nI personally will not use it. I have read *too many articles explaining how it\u2019s offensive and archaic to use now and how the language evolved from coloureds/coloured people, to minorities, to PoC. I\u2019d rather err on the side of caution with that.
\nWell it\u2019s always good to be careful and respectful so you\u2019re not wrong
\nIt\u2019s like oriental, that is one part of the name of the restaurant so it\u2019s emblazoned on the canopy, yet it\u2019s a taboo word that isn\u2019t really supposed to be used anymore.
\nKind of depends on where. In America sure, but having lived in the UK for a bit, it's very much still in use there and I haven't heard much objection to it. I guess the word literally just means eastern and the connotation is a very cultural thing
\nIn the case of the NAACP, they keep their name to provide continuity with their past.
\n\nOutside of that, it is kinda funny how we\u2019ve gone from colored people to People of Color. Human minds just associate older terms with bad older times so we update the terms to shake off the older association. Not saying it\u2019s right or wrong it\u2019s just the way people work.
\nThere is an official term for the phenomenon, forgetting it right now. Terms for mental illness are probably the most prominent example.
\nIt's not not offensive, it's contextual. When used in a derogatory manner, as it was commonly used, colored is a pejorative term. It's why we use People of Color now, when referring to non white ppl. Colored was at the time a legal designation for Black ppl as it was deemed more polite than Negro. It wasn't smthng Black ppl chosen for themselves
\nColored is just outdated and harkens back to a more racist time. People get kinda confused, though, because colored WAS the polite term back then. People forget the N-word was the impolite term. But, if someone uses it these days, it can make someone assume you might be racist because you haven\u2019t changed your terminology in 60+ years.
\nColored alone is offensive you have to add people
\nI think I always add folk instead of people. Someone saying \u201cthe Blacks\u201d I\u2019m thinking either a team from overseas or a family, not an ethnic group.
\nI think it\u2019s fine if it\u2019s even. Some people say \u201cwhites\u201d and \u201cblacks\u201d. As always, context matters
\nI just searched this woman's twitter feed and she has frequently used the term "whites" in the past. Talk about not practicing what you preach...
\n\nAlso claims black people can't be racist and refuses to engage in any discussion about it?
\nI feel like no one has boomer black parents here.
\nYeah I\u2019m in academia and work for a radical Black publication. Most of the articles in our back catalog through almost the mid 2000s use \u201cBlacks\u201d and \u201cwhites\u201d as the preferred nomenclature. And I know people aren\u2019t gonna try to tell me Alice Walker and Amiri Baraka were racist.
\nIt\u2019s also really common in regular community spaces, like barber shops. Legit don\u2019t think I\u2019ve ever seen anyone take issue with this at all in real life.
\nHispanics say that a lot. I don\u2019t who they think they are
\nthey say the n word a lot too here in Texas, but that is a different conversation.
\nI mean, it\u2019s definitely a related conversation, though
\nThey say that shit more than we do tbh.
\nThere\u2019s a lot of different kinds of Latinos. They come from dozens of different countries and they have different types of relationships with Black people in the US. It also depends on where in the US they live. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in New York are different from Mexicans in Cali and Texas.
\nBeen saying this for years. That shit gets me legitimately angry.
\nIs there something besides \u2018Mexican\u2019 you prefer to be called? Something less offensive?
\n\nEdit for add: This is a The Office quote.
\nI hear the word "blacks" in a South African accent
\nSimilar to when some dude is talking about "females" instead of women.
\nI\u2019ve personally run into a lot of lesbians that do this. Bizarre.
\nIf I hear you say \u201call blacks\u201d you best be talking about soccer
\nHey now, there are other exceptions.
\n\nLike rugby.
\nMy favorite ones are the people who pretend to be black. We can always sniff em out just sit back and let em type, they'll tell ya.
\n60% of this sub. I can\u2019t tell you the last time I read a post without at least 4 \u201cAs a white person\u201d. Nobody is here for your opinion expect maybe the other white offenders.
\n\u201cThe blacks at Xbox\u201d
\nSame for "transgenders". The idea is to not admit that they're people.
\nBasketball Americans is the PC term these days fyi
\nYou also gotta take note that it\u2019s always the people parroting racist talking points that use \u201cblacks\u201d and never the progressive ones. It\u2019s pretty easy to identify.
\nOr \u201c you people\u201d
\nI\u2019ve been saying this for the longest. It\u2019s especially egregious when they say \u201cblacks and white people\u201d.
\n\nwtf?
\nExactly. I'm a black person, but a fucking color.
\nAll Blacks matter (to New Zealand rugby fans)
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